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20 April 2012

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What are you Timothy if not a far right radical?? Clearly you dont wish to meet halfway on the issue as you have not even spoken about sustainable palm oil. It cant be just black and white you must meet in the middle. I think you will find that most of these 'radicals' who work within Indonesia for conservation efforts support palm oil at a sustainable level. However the burning of peat forests to plant palm oil is not only unsustainable but stupid.

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Excellent article. I wasn't aware that we are facing 2 million refugees invasion if the extreme green fanatics get their way on the issue of palm oil. Again our nation and way of life is under attack.

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